In my case, I concentrated on Guns early, backed up with repair and lockpicking. In fact, I think you're anolysis could be applied across a range of skills. Riky Carrasco Posts: 3429 Joined: Tue 12:17 am Drop 70 points in it and never look back. If you are playing hardcoe, I think Barter is the way you should go. My bottom line is that Survival needs a lot of work, from recipe tweaks to ingredient yields and weights, more recipes that yield actual equipment and items (like non-addictive chem anologues!), to better campfire placement, and even making ovens/stovetops useable like a campfire (at least the ones in Player Housing and some popular shacks). It's the only reasonable recipe with a positive return - throwing meat on a fire and cooking it. The bulk of its utility is in cooking dog, coyote, and gecko meat into steaks. I promise you you're not missing out on it, though.

The Cons? The only real Con is that you don't get to play with the shiny new Survival skill. Further, unlike in Fallout 3, there are plenty of things to command the attention of your bottle cap collection - things like high-end medical procedures (you know the ones), gambling, item repairs, and weapon modifications. If you're in hardcoe mode, that means all the food and water and ammo you're lugging around weighs half as less. Number 2, the Barter skill unlocks a highly desirable perk that halves the weight of anything in your inventory that weighs two pounds or less - take a look at your inventory some time and get a good feel for how many items would benefit from that. You save money and make a little more, and all this money you would see with Barter can supplement your diet and hydration with caps to spare on other actually useful things like guns, ammunition, and other supplies. Let me tell you a little bit about Barter and why it's the better choice, and the choice I wish I had made. Nevermind, there's no profit to be found in Survival crafting in the first place - the ingredients are often worth more than the resulting product.Д«arter. I thought tanning hides was going to be a step into all sorts of cool armor modifications or other crafting, but it's essentially throwing a lot of these hard to obtain ingredients into a gecko hide that's worth a hundred or so caps. Making poisons seems pretty cool until you find out it's a single dose, single strike sort of mechanic, and they're only applicable to melee weapons and spears (no duh, right?). The reality is that the campfires are very inconveniently located (particularly bothersome is that none of them are near official Player Housing assets), the recipes require a lot of skill points put into the Survival skill to make even the most apparently simple things, scrounging up ingredients for these recipes is tedious as a whole plant will usually yield only one or two ingredient items, and the recipes then demand a lot of the ingredients (and even some insane ingredients - a tin can to make an omelet?) to make an item that is essentially kinda like a StimPak that, if you're in hardcoe mode, also mitigates your hunger. On the Survival side of the fence, the basic mechanics are using campfires to cook your own food, tan hides, make poisons, and be self-reliant. It also helped that there was a brand spanking new skill in New Vegas, Survival, which let you live off the fat of the land.ДЄfter funneling a lot of my skill points and scavenging efforts into Survival and totally neglecting Barter, I feel like I have come to a conclusion.ДЄllow me to elaborate on the situation with some basic Pros and Cons. Initially, I was like 'Psh, I played Fallout 3 and I was in nooo short supply of caps, I don't think I'm going to need Barter again.' I'm pretty far into the game now and I'm developing some pretty strong opinions on these two skills.

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